Against All Odds

This episode features Pia Long, perfumer and co-founder of Olfiction and Boujee Bougies. We tried out new a podcast app with success, and we did our absolute best to stay on track and keep our conversation to one hour. So with that, dear listeners, please enjoy 1 hour, 1 minute, and 6 seconds of our conversation. Someday I will figure out how to bring back sounds into episodes. (But not today.)